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Woodsman
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I was hunting with my father over the weekend on property in ohio. He sent me a text saying he shot a buck and was going to wait 20 minutes because he knew he put a great shot on it. Not 5 minutes later he heard twigs snapping and leaves crunching and he seen another guy walking in the direction the deer ran. (the deer ran on to different property). so he got down right away and was going to ask the guy for permission to go on his property but he was gone and the blood trail on the deer mysteriously ended. So he we went to the property owners house and got permission to go on the property. What we found out is where my dad lost blood, the buck fell and ran into a tree then took a 90 degree turn. We found a spot with blood and hair everywhere and then noticed something that made our stomachs turn. Drag marks. 2 other guys dragged away his deer and stole it. we found laytex gloves with blood all over them and the drag marks led to a 4 wheel trail. This was only about an hour after he shot the deer. It was gone. Why would you want a deer if you didnt shoot it. I dont understand some people, it makes me sick.
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Jacka$$es like this honestly take their lives in their hands when they do something like this. You know that everyone in the woods is armed, so why would you risk an encounter with someone who is now very pi$$ed that you are stealing his deer? Not only is it not right or ethical, it is just not worth it in my book.
Sorry to hear your dad's stolen deer. If there is a good side to this, at least he didn't burn your tag on the deer and you still have a chance to put some meat in the freezer.
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Man that's some bull******!! I'd a been on a hunt for the scumbags for sure. People like that don't belong anywhere's near the woods or hunting for that matter....
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Woodsman
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We really couldnt do anything about it thats the part that sucks. We cant just barge into homes or snoop around because you can't trust people, they have weapons. The deer went on to their property, they played it off when we asked for permission, its sickening.
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Sorry to hear , I know how you feal . I was hunting with my uncle in Illinois several years back during archery season , I had stuck a buck and we watched him go down in a ditch bank across the field . We walked to the house to get a good light and the 4 wheeler , as we were walkin out of the woods to the west , we seen a truck drive up from the north west and load my deer . Gone forever . It was obviously people from out of town hunting on nearby stateland that had seen the deer fall . It sickened me for a long time , still does . However we try to make the best of it and it and me have become the butt of alot of jokes over the holidays . Sorry for your bad luck though .
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| I have never understood either why someone would want to claim someone else's deer,or steal their trailcam, or treestands especially on your own property, there are some very unethical turds not hunters out there. I feel for your father.
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My brother-in-law shot a doe last year and he and I went to the truck to let her lay for an hour. We tracked her to the edge of the property and she apparently crossed to the neighbors land. We went back and went to the neighbors for permission to get his deer. The guy was a total d**k. He said " my property, my deer"! My brother was like " you're seriously going to take my deer "? The guy says the same thing again, " my property, my deer ". We left, pissed off to say the least. Now here's the kicker, the next day we went to the same property to hunt and two stands that were set by the property line were gone!! We immediately went next door and nicely asked this guy if he knew anything about the stands and he said " my property, my stands"!!!!!!! The stands were on the property line and he said that the tree(s) were more on his side so they were his. It took everything I had not to lay this guy down (for a long time!). We told him if we saw someone breaking into his house or stealing one of his stands that we would look the other way and if he EVER thinks about crossing over to our land to get his deer, there might be a hunting "accident". I cannot believe people can be this way. If anyone (besides this jerk) shot a deer and it went on to my property, I would help the person drag it and hang it up and shake his/her hand and congradulate. The decline of the western civilization!!
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Sucks to have greedy neighbors like that. Sometimes you wonder if they were just brought up that way or have they been conditioned over the years to just say screw everyone else. Sometimes it's best to plan ahead and see what the neighbors are like before season. At least you know what you'll be dealing with ahead of time.
ggallin, IMO your pushing it setting up a stand on a border tree. Some see it as half the ground your hunting is theirs. I know landowners that wouldn't steal but just cut the tree down stand and all. Hell, a buddy of mine cut the half of a home built stand off that was on his property. Don't blame him the way it's a free for all over on the other side of the line.
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ggallin (12/8/2009)
My brother-in-law shot a doe last year and he and I went to the truck to let her lay for an hour. We tracked her to the edge of the property and she apparently crossed to the neighbors land. We went back and went to the neighbors for permission to get his deer. The guy was a total d**k. He said " my property, my deer"! My brother was like " you're seriously going to take my deer "? The guy says the same thing again, " my property, my deer ". We left, pissed off to say the least. Now here's the kicker, the next day we went to the same property to hunt and two stands that were set by the property line were gone!! We immediately went next door and nicely asked this guy if he knew anything about the stands and he said " my property, my stands"!!!!!!! The stands were on the property line and he said that the tree(s) were more on his side so they were his. It took everything I had not to lay this guy down (for a long time!). We told him if we saw someone breaking into his house or stealing one of his stands that we would look the other way and if he EVER thinks about crossing over to our land to get his deer, there might be a hunting "accident". I cannot believe people can be this way. If anyone (besides this jerk) shot a deer and it went on to my property, I would help the person drag it and hang it up and shake his/her hand and congradulate. The decline of the western civilization!!
I can't believe you let this guy steal your stands. You should have got the law involved. Even if they were hung on his side it does not give him the right to steal. A tree is on one side or the other it can't be on one side "more" than the other.
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15 years ago, when my daughter was first born, I was working two jobs and I traded one of my Monte Carlo SS cars I owned for a very used 1985 Chevrolet pick up truck 4x4.
My Uncle Rich owned a camp in Pennsylvania and had 106 acres and there was 1000 acres on which you could hunt which was all private land, but no one posted their land at that time.
On the last day of the season, my dad and my uncle put on a deer drive, which was very unusual - due to the fact that they mostly were just stump sitters and didn't believe in driving deer.
I had not shot a doe that year and with money being tight, some deer meat in the freezer would have really helped my budget.
I drove to the top of our hill and stood in the bed of my pick up truck.
About a half a hour before all this all transpired, I was walking through the woods back to our camp, when I came across a group of hunters walking across our property. Their last name was Rowles. They were known outlaws and also known for taking deer off other hunters. Not the kind of people you want on your land. It was 3 PM and they told me they were on their way out of the woods and back to their vehicles, so I bid them a fair adieu
My brothers told me to go back up in the woods because my family members were putting on a drive, and so I drove back up to where I had been to see if I could see any deer.
The opening in the woods where the truck was at and where I was standing was a intersection of 3 trails. A doe came down the one trail with a limp and I shot her with my very old but trusty Remington Game Master 30-06 with my handloaded 150 grain Sierra Gameking bullets. The doe went down and got back up again and I shot her a second time and she ran into some mountain laurel.
I was getting out of the bed of the truck when I heard a loud bang.
The outlaw Rowles gang were in the mountain laurel and heard me shoot two times and they saw the deer fall and they shot up in the air and started gutting out my deer while it was still kicking.
We got into a argument and it got loud and dad came along and told me to give them the deer and forget about it because there were plenty of deer in the woods and we didn't need to be fighting over one deer.
The Rowles gang said that it was their deer because they shot last! There was 3 holes in the deer and I shot twice and it was bleeding and limping when it came to me. Not running, just walking!
The next year the posted signs went up and they never came back! They were not welcome on our land anymore, as were none of their friends either.
One other point to ponder is my neighbors - who thinks that the hunting is always better when you hunt on the property line. It's like their deer is their deer and your deer is their deer. They are always getting caught trespassing by the State Police and the Game Warden and getting fines for being where they don't belong.
If you look in the record book for deer shot in Pennsylvania, you will see the name Rowles. He shot what is called the Airport Buck. A deer ranch owner was loading a buck which was being transported to a game preserve which some hunter was going to pay big money to shoot. The deer woke up - when it was supposed to be sedated and ran away. The owner of the deer could not catch it and the Rowles family found out about it and got permission from the land owner to post the land where it lived and they hunted there until they shot it and got their names in a record book. It was not a free roaming deer. It's gonad's were removed to make the rack grow larger and it had all sorts of points growing out of it.
There are some people who will do most anything to get a deer and scruples were not something that was taught to them when they were growing up.
Another point to ponder is that just a couple of weeks ago, a landowner ran into a couple of hunters from Brookville PA. The hunters were politically connected and business owners and they shot the landowner dead and did not get into any trouble.
SUMMERVILLE PA - An argument over trespassing apparently sparked a shootout in rural northern Pennsylvania Tuesday that left a landowner dead and a member of a bear hunting party hospitalized with a gunshot wound.
Investigators were trying to sort out the details of the incident near Summerville, but charges are expected, said Trooper Bruce Morris. He said at least four shots were fired.
"From what side to who, who shot first - they're going through that process to try to determine it.
Frank N. Shaffer, 63, of Red Lion was killed after he apparently confronted a group of four or five bear hunters about trespassing or walking across the land he owns with family members.
Paul H. Plyler, 23, of Summerville was shot once and taken by a private vehicle to a hospital in nearby Brookville. Morris said Plyler was transferred to a Pittsburgh hospital but his injuries were not considered life-threatening.
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